Rubber guard / Butterfly guard

Hello,
I would like to know if those two guard positions are available in EA MMA ? They seem pretty common nowdays but I can't find how to be use them in the demo. Maybe it's because the available characters does not have it... or worse they were not implemented in the game :S
Will those guard positions be in the complete game ?
Thanks in advance.|||Isn't anybody interested in those positions or is the question really that stupid ? :)|||im sure I read somewhere that rubber guard was in......|||There was a video somewhere where Melendez did the rubber guard. So at least that's in.|||I'd like for butterfly to be included. Its a little underused in mainstream mma, but its awesome for sweeps and setting up quick submissions. I suppose the only other thing to factor in here is the ability by the developers to make the butterfly guard have both its advantages and disadvantages. There is a higher chance of getting your guard passed when using an offensive guard position. Maybe they could make the deny window smaller for offensive sub attempts, but also reduce the deny window for guard passes?
It would be a neat inclusion|||Ok thank you for the answers :)
Jason Miller has butterfly guard in is repertoire for sure, so I guess it should be possible to do it in the demo with him, if it's in... maybe it will only be in the final game tho... I'd like an "official" answer about it :)|||

Ok thank you for the answers :)
Jason Miller has butterfly guard in is repertoire for sure, so I guess it should be possible to do it in the demo with him, if it's in... maybe it will only be in the final game tho... I'd like an "official" answer about it :)

Bump!|||Oh, so I'm not that alone ? :)|||I think they will be in. There is no major transition for guard or half-guard in the demo. It means there is room for the rubber, a major in guard; and for butterfly, a major in half-guard.
Additionally, the rubber guard bottom would need to be more dominant than half-guard top. That's because the minor from guard bottom is half-guard top. So, the major should lead to something more dominant, that would be the rubber. And the butterfly bottom would need to be better than the common guard bottom, because the minor from half-guard bottom is the common guard bottom.

I'd like for butterfly to be included. Its a little underused in mainstream mma, but its awesome for sweeps and setting up quick submissions. I suppose the only other thing to factor in here is the ability by the developers to make the butterfly guard have both its advantages and disadvantages. There is a higher chance of getting your guard passed when using an offensive guard position. Maybe they could make the deny window smaller for offensive sub attempts, but also reduce the deny window for guard passes?
It would be a neat inclusion

I like the suggestion.|||So, can we get some "official" words on this topic please ?|||Maybe they didn't give Mayhem the rubberguard in exchange for making his stats way overstated.|||

Maybe they didn't give Mayhem the rubberguard in exchange for making his stats way overstated.

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So, can we get some "official" words on this topic please ?

Developers generally don't come on during the weekend.|||or in THQ's case, more than once every 6 or so weeks.|||

Developers generally don't come on during the weekend.

I figured this, but thanks. I was just bumping the topic and I hate just saying "bump".